Link to the original post about this...
http://politicallyhonest.blogspot.com/2006/11/let-us-buy-beer-on-sundays.html
Well, it has now been officially "tabled" by the GGA. Way to go pansy lawmakers. They let the Southern Baptists get their way again. This really pisses me off. Not necessarily because it bothers me that I cannot buy beer on a Sunday if I want to --- but because I cannot buy beer on a Sunday if I want to because it might upset a "christian". Especially since I can go to a restaurant and drink all day long if I want to. Sorry but anybody who gets upset about this needs to get their head out of their butt because ME buying beer on a Sunday has absolutely ZERO effect on you what-so-ever. In my opinion, these people need to grow up and start worrying about their own lives and not mine and everybody elses in society. I would understand if it was having some kind of negative affect on their life but it DOES NOT AT ALL. I heard one of these persons say that allowing alcohol sales on Sundays would ruin the Sabath day. Well, somebody correct me if I am wrong but I believe God enjoyed the wine....and you know what...he would have probably enjoyed football too.
This makes NO sense at all.
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Good morning rednecks,
Got in last night from a west coast run and just had to see if Bruce had gone on any new rants. Wow! I’ll start with “Beer on Sunday”
Hey Bruce, it’s called POLITICS. In your neck of the woods the “Southern Baptists” are a huge voting block with lots of MONEY! Am I making this clear enough for you?
You can rant and rave all you want…………won’t do a bit of good. You want beer on Sunday? Get off your butt, create a constituency that can OUTSPEND the other guys, and you win. It’s that simple.
Now, you said “I can’t buy beer on Sunday because it might upset a Christian”
This Christian does not appreciate your obvious sarcasm.
As for Jesus and wine: Yes, he turned water into wine. He was accused (by the Pharisees) of being a drunkard and a glutton. And obviously there was wine at the Last Supper.
However, nowhere in scripture does it say Jesus actually consumed wine. Likewise, nowhere in scripture does it say it is a sin to consume wine / alcohol. Abstaining from strong drink is a personal choice some Christians make. Some, not all! So to blame your not being able to buy beer on Christians, is at best irresponsible, and at worst an atheistic stereotype.
I don't give a flying rats tail if you don't appreciate my "sarcasm". I call 'em as I see 'em. You call it a stereotype...I call it reality. Thats the problem with you pansy liberals. You think EVERYTHING is either a stereotype or some kind of "racism". Get over it...fact is fact. You know what stereotype I don't like...the one that makes my pay higher car insurance rates than a female because fact shows men have more claims than women. Reality is I can drive circles around just about ANY women driver in this country. I know how to drive my car in any conditions and keep it in MY lane. I have never had an accident and I am an very safe driver. Insurance does not care. I pay more than a 16 year old crazy female driver who does not have 10% of the driving skills I have. I don't go marching around saying it's a stereotype because it is a FACT that MOST men have more car insurance claims.
Now,it is also a FACT that MOST Christians are against that bill. Therefore I can make the statement that Christians are to blame for people not being able to buy beer on Sundays. Don't get all pissy...it's the truth isn't it??? I know, it's tough because this falls under accepting responsibility and you liberals really have a problem with that. Not only accepting responsibility but accepting fact.
Here's another fact for you...MIDDLE EASTERNS killed thousands of Americans while blowing up several of our buildings. You know what, when I am in the security line at the airport, you can bet your ass that I will be looking at EVERY SINGLE MIDDLE EASTERN standing in that security line...I will be looking for fuses hanging out of their shoes. You know why...because THEY did it. Thats another FACT for you. See, I call it a FACT OF REALITY, you call it a "racial profiling".
Go choke on a railroad spike.
This may surprise you but I am actually going to agree with something you said. While it may be politics, it does not take away from the fact that it's BS. It's also politics that keeps making me pay into a social security system that is well on its way towards bankruptcy and I will never see a DIME of that money ever again. I could be investing that into my choice investment but no, politics get in the way because of our scumbag politicians and people like you. Letting ME take control of MY money would be making me accept responsibility for MY future. I know that goes totally against what people like you and your constituents believe in.
Our current state of politics is a bunch of BS anyways.
"Now, you said “I can’t buy beer on Sunday because it might upset a Christian”
This Christian does not appreciate your obvious sarcasm."
...and this is another problem with this country. Everybody is all for making a generalization until the generalization is about them. Too many people just don't like the truth.
Generalizations?
"Now it is also a Fact that MOST Christians are against that bill"
Prove it!
FACT is, MOST can't be a fact without numbers. So from what sourse do you report? What are the numbers?
Truth? Truth is you have no FACT to back up your statement. You made it up.
Not to worry Bruce, unlike your lauding and magnifying family, I will be right here to challenge you every step of the way. And, it is going to be a lot of fun.
Ok, after doing research today on "Alcohol and the Bible". I found a website that outlines the truths about alcohol in the bible and found it to be interesting. Please know that I have my beliefs and do not feel that the Church should have anything to do with politics. I really believe that organized religion is the downfall of the world because MAN controls it, not GOD! The link to this website is as follows. Please read it before attacking me on these thoughts.
http://chetday.com/alcoholandthebible.htm
The problem I have with Baptist's or any Christian vowing to abstain from alcohol consumption is this, they are making it a Biblical thing. Why not just make it a personal choice instead of bringing the Bible into it. There are many references in the Bible about alcohol consumption and in most of them alcohol is used to celebrate. It has always been a problem in society with many people, this I do agree on. Some people just cannot control their actions. If you go to the link that I provided and actually read it, you will see that Jesus himself drank wine and never made it a "Bad Thing". Please read the sections titled (in red) Analysis of Scripture: Conclusions: Pay special attention to this section. We all are aware that many people in society cannot control their actions when under the influence of alcohol. This, however, is not the case for everyone. Bruce covers the fact that people need to be responsible for their own actions and be accountable for them as well. I fully agree with this mind set. Free will and free choice, what a concept. Actually understanding that "WE" are responsible for our actions and the things that we do under the influence of Alcohol/Drugs or just being Humans. I am not in anyway stating that this kind of behavior is ok or even tolerable, but the fact still remains that we all have to pay for our mistakes. I hate it that some people go out and hurt others with their choices, but the fact is just that, Choices. This is why we have law. If you go out and get a DUI than it seems to me that anyone half normal would know that you might have a problem making decisions when you drink. Accept responsibility and fix the problem. It should be our choice as a society if we want to buy alcohol on Sundays or not and politics or the most money should not be able to dictate that. If I am correct, isn’t Church and State supposed to be separate? We should simply be able to vote on it and the fact that we cannot even do that is, in my mind, intolerable. We should not be denied the right to vote and this is where politics get involved. Road buzzard is right about the fact that this is politics. The problem I have with the whole thing is that many Christian groups and many liberals are the ones making the problems because everything is someone else’s fault or the Devil himself. What about those that do not believe in the Devil or those that are Atheists? Do they not have any rights if they choose not to celebrate the “SABATH”? Once again, I thought Church and state were supposed to be separated. There seems to be very little emphasis placed on actual accountability. I, myself have made bad choices once or twice (lol) when consuming alcoholic beverages, however, I also know it is a choice that I made and I must pay the price if something bad happens as a result of that choice. If my choice lands me in jail or on death row, so be it, I made that choice and by all means, should pay the price according to the law. I am thankful that in my earlier years I did not hurt anyone while making these choices. I personally agree with Bruce on the responsibility of each individual. In the society that we live in, we must be able to vote on everything and have control in that manner to make things fair. It seems to be all about someone else making my choices for me, not me making my own choices. Roadbuzzard, as far as I am concerned, Bruce is right about the fact that most Christians are against the alcohol thing on Sunday because all of the non-Christians and most other people could care less. Another problem is the hypocrisy involved with the large Christian groups is huge and most people know it. The biggest point being, if you don’t want to buy alcohol on Sunday than simply don’t buy it. Don’t make the rest of the state pay for your beliefs. This is what our constitution is supposed to be about, the people, voting and fairly instituting the law and then enforcing it. I could go on and on but this is not my blog and I would have to start a separate blog just on my feelings about the separation of Church and State. As for Roadbuzzard, we may be a “LAUDING AND MAGNIFYING” Family but you have to admit one thing, at least Bruce had the gonads to speak about it and actually propose a solution, unlike you that just wants to criticize. I don’t see your blog with your solutions to all of these problems anywhere. Do you not care that there will be no money for you when you retire, after you contributed to the SS system all of your life? This is why you’re being abused so much. You have so much liberalism in you it really scares me. Our future depends on capitalists like Bruce, me, and the rest of our Family as well as all of the other entrepreneurs out there in the world. I do not know what your financial position is in life but if you have a lot of investments and savings, your political position will take it away from you too and give it to people that don’t give two chits about doing their part to contribute to society, as long as you will support them. Something to ponder, huh!
Bruce, here is something else I would like to see you write about. WELFARE!
Here is some good info I found that ROADBUZZARD may find interesting, that is if he can go into this with an open mind and not a left mind.
http://www.harrybrowne.org/hb2000/print/welfare.htm
This is just more proof as to why I want to control my own money. Here is a quote from the website.
"Compassion" "Would it be hard-hearted to do away with welfare entirely? Perhaps the question should be: Is it compassionate to teach people they can't survive without government help?
Was it compassionate to run up bills of $363,466 for your family to pay? Is it compassionate to leave no one responsible for himself, and make everyone responsible for everyone else?
It isn't compassionate to force people to pay for projects one thinks are good.
Those who truly can't help themselves will get better care from people who help voluntarily. The genuine compassion of volunteers has the best chance of leading the needy out of dependency -- rather than deeper into it.
And for those who can help themselves, but who may have lost the habit, the best we can do is to set them free. For their sake, we should get the government out of the economy, to open more opportunities for the unskilled and the inexperienced.
No government program can turn people into responsible citizens. The only way to make anyone understand responsibility is to set him free to see the consequences of his own acts."
Except responsability for our own actions. What a concept!
Bruce, I know how you feel about these things, but I do believe that others that may read this blog need to know more about the corrupt welfare system.
I think I may have to start another blog, this way we can keep Roadbuzzard really busy, lol.
I'm going to bring this back to the topic at hand...beer on Sunday. What a concept, would be great if it became a reality but unfortunately I fear that Roadbuzzard is correct and it's really all about the MONEY involved in the politics...it's always about the money. But I believe it's less about the true, honest day-to-day Christian and more about the politician who wishes to APPEAR devout in order to generate support and funds. It wouldn't be the first time that politicians blatantly USED religion as a weapon to further their own agenda. The real question is what do they get out of it? There has to be some kind of pay-off or benefit to NOT passing this bill...there is no way it's just about religion or just about the Southern Baptists, or even JUST about money (though I'd say that's a huge part of it). So what gives? If I'm a politician against the sale of beer on Sunday, what's the benefit for ME?
SOMEBODY is being paid off. That is the only thing that I can think. Sorry for the long rant, but church and state are supposed to be separate and I really dont see it as that.
First I will say, becareful when talking about seperate church and state. You have to remember that this country WAS founded on basic Christian principles...not extreme Christian principles but basic...you know, don't steal, cheat, kill, piss off your neighbor, and so on. But I do still believe that this situation is an violation of seperate church and state. Although it was never defined EXACTLY what seperate church and state meant, I think this is a case where it is being combined. Just to clear this up, I do not believe the general Christian is completely against allowing alcohol purchases on Sunday, I do believe it is the extremists who are against. It's kind of like how I do not believe ALL democrats are completely useless. Zell Miller is a registered democrat and I think I would vote for him WAY before anybody who is possible running for President in '08.
I love Zell Miller and wish he would run for president, I would vote for him without a thought in my head. He is honest and does what he says he is going to do. He is not afraid to say or stand up for what is right. He is like the republicans use to be like in the good old days. Now is it getting hard to tell the difference in the parties. I am having a real hard time with that. So far I think Rudy is the best one running even though I have some different thoughts then he does but all in all, he is the best one running.
Yes, I fully understand that this country was founded on Christian principles, however, when 60,000 Baptist activists storm GA to make sure this does not go through is what makes me think about the separation of Church and State and get mad about it.
Yeah but that's basically just a "lobby" group made up of Christians. It's an interest group and they are allowed to do that. I know exactly what you are saying but I think the issue I have with it is that politicans are turning it away for solely that reason.
Wow, at least one of you rednecks actually can stay on topic. Of course I am correct Kim! It’s the “Golden Rule”. He who has the GOLD makes the RULES.
Get more gold and you will find the RULES can be changed to your liking.
Goodness gracious Michael, are you really that stupid, or is this just some sort of act?
Separation of church and state with regard to alcohol sales on Sunday? Are you freaking serious? On another post you actually asked for a “battle of the wits” I laughed then, and I’m laughing harder now. You my friend are unarmed. I’d have to “tie half my brain behind my back just to make it fair” Sound familiar? Too funny! I would give you history lesson on the first amendment but it would be a waste of time. Furthermore, “sabath” is spelled Sabbath. It is the seventh day of the week, which is Saturday; not Sunday you fool.
As for Jesus and wine, I’ve already covered that. Doesn’t matter what some idiotic website says. There is no scriptural proof either way. So believe what you wish.
More………….. Only criticize? Wrong again, I gave you a solution. You were just so busy running your mouth you didn’t hear. Maybe you were just focused on “Man Parts”
Or Bruce’s’ gonads…………who knows. The topic was “Beer sales on Sunday” Not capitalism, welfare, or social security.
I’m done with this topic. Moving up to Schools……………You guys can’t wait can you?
Roadbuzzard, I do understand that I got way off topic with this post. I went on a rant and it went too far. The fact still remains that we get no choice on wheather to vote or not. The other issues should have been in another post. Just like you, we all tend to go off once in while. That is our right. Whether you believe what I say or I believe what you say, that is the beauty of being able to think for ourselves.
granny.. i do agree that this is a very interseting blog and i do learn things more now than i did before because of it.. but dont give road scum any credit..
Looks like I'm wearin granny down!
Resistance is futile!
ps.
I still love you megan.
Megan, sounds like you have an admirer. I cant wait until Roadbuzzard reveals his identity one day, I know he has to be someone we know and is most definately loving all of this, lol. When we find out we will probably all laugh like hell. At least I hope so.
Ahhhh Megan, roadbuzzard really does love you. Hope he is cute!! LOL :)
This is what roadbuzzard probably looks like...
http://www.uglypersons.com/index.php?id=72&c=all
Great picture of roadbuzzard Bruce. I can see him looking like that. LOL LOL LOL
you do not love me. shut up. i strongly dislike you. and your thoughts...
michael.. if he is someone we know... bad things will happen when his identity is revealed.
OK EVERYONE, TOMMORROW IS SAT. DON'T FORGET TO BUY YOUR SUNDAY BEER AND DON'T SIT ON THAT COUCH OUT ON YOUR FRONT PORCH AND DRINK IT ALL ON SAT. NIGHT. IF YOU DO THEN YOU WILL HAVE TO GO TO THE BOOTLEGGER!!
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